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		<title>Comment on Lay Flat Issue 2: Meta by S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks James!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Woman Waiting to Take a Photograph &#8211; Dave Eggers by zhaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>zhaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my 2cents: I take this story as one essentially about being a self-aware photographer. Photographers need to see with their hearts as well as their minds. 

For example, the photographer here sees her composition in just an intellectual way, especially in the contrast between the people and the store sign. But at the same time, she is being blind (or acting blind) to the privilege she has compared to her &quot;subjects.&quot; 

Why does she not think they are go-getters? Does she believe that poor people (the drunks, transients, and prostitutes) just need to work harder to change their circumstances? What about the opportunities in life (or lack of them) they had? What about the opportunities in life she had? Americans (speaking as one) love to think that hard work can overcome any obstacle, and then judge those that didn&#039;t have the privileges they had by saying, &quot;they just need to work harder.&quot; Class and Work becomes moral issues when they aren&#039;t. Life often presents some serious challenges that sometimes cannot be overcome with all the hard work in the world. 

So yes, for me, it&#039;s a cautionary tale. If you&#039;re using other people&#039;s personal tragedy as a way to &quot;express&quot; yourself or to make an intellectual point, then aren&#039;t you exploiting them in someway? And if you have ethical values that say all people (no matter their circumstances) are entitled to dignity, then isn&#039;t exploiting people wrong?

As a photographer, I think the challenge is recognize all these types of things--to see with our eye, mind, AND heart--as much as possible. The point is not so much about the particular photo you take, but more about the spirit and the concept you put into them and how you try to be a decent person in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my 2cents: I take this story as one essentially about being a self-aware photographer. Photographers need to see with their hearts as well as their minds. </p>
<p>For example, the photographer here sees her composition in just an intellectual way, especially in the contrast between the people and the store sign. But at the same time, she is being blind (or acting blind) to the privilege she has compared to her &#8220;subjects.&#8221; </p>
<p>Why does she not think they are go-getters? Does she believe that poor people (the drunks, transients, and prostitutes) just need to work harder to change their circumstances? What about the opportunities in life (or lack of them) they had? What about the opportunities in life she had? Americans (speaking as one) love to think that hard work can overcome any obstacle, and then judge those that didn&#8217;t have the privileges they had by saying, &#8220;they just need to work harder.&#8221; Class and Work becomes moral issues when they aren&#8217;t. Life often presents some serious challenges that sometimes cannot be overcome with all the hard work in the world. </p>
<p>So yes, for me, it&#8217;s a cautionary tale. If you&#8217;re using other people&#8217;s personal tragedy as a way to &#8220;express&#8221; yourself or to make an intellectual point, then aren&#8217;t you exploiting them in someway? And if you have ethical values that say all people (no matter their circumstances) are entitled to dignity, then isn&#8217;t exploiting people wrong?</p>
<p>As a photographer, I think the challenge is recognize all these types of things&#8211;to see with our eye, mind, AND heart&#8211;as much as possible. The point is not so much about the particular photo you take, but more about the spirit and the concept you put into them and how you try to be a decent person in the process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Photographer Jessica Dimmock&#8217;s New Video For Moby by Hernan Zenteno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hernan Zenteno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 19:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What that mean? Beautiful music and a beautiful handicap woman that is taking drugs again, how one can learn something about this. I don&#039;t think is a cool video, more if i understand that Jesse is a real person, not a character. I would like to read more explanation about the photographer that made an impression on me when i saw her work for first time. This is something that make me think again about that photography, in the most pure sense, is out of the art and the photojournalism now. We are only seeing functional images being eaten by commercialism. What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What that mean? Beautiful music and a beautiful handicap woman that is taking drugs again, how one can learn something about this. I don&#8217;t think is a cool video, more if i understand that Jesse is a real person, not a character. I would like to read more explanation about the photographer that made an impression on me when i saw her work for first time. This is something that make me think again about that photography, in the most pure sense, is out of the art and the photojournalism now. We are only seeing functional images being eaten by commercialism. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Super Great Expired Film Giveaway!! by Mikko Takkunen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikko Takkunen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh if it only was 35mm...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Super Great Expired Film Giveaway!! by Ramin Talaie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramin Talaie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the photo-montage!</description>
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		<title>Comment on MFA Application Portfolio Editing by Srikanth K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Srikanth K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your valuable suggestion.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Super Great Expired Film Giveaway!! by Renato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehe, so cute! very very nice!
:D</description>
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		<title>Comment on Super Great Expired Film Giveaway!! by Darko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely expect an e-mail from me! :)

p.s. looove the illustration!</description>
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<p>p.s. looove the illustration!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Woman Waiting to Take a Photograph &#8211; Dave Eggers by MarcW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any difference, artistically speaking, if the young woman wants to make the photograph described in the text because she thinks it would be fun/interesting/effective/moving, or because she wants to make a photograph that she thinks someone *else* will find fun/interesting/effective/moving?

I can honestly say that the sort of thing that she is doing is the kind of thing I have done, but I think I can honestly say that it has never occurred to me, unless I was being paid to take a photograph by somebody else, to take one or not to take one because of what *somebody else* would think of it.

Well, okay to be honest from time to time I take a picture of something because I think my wife or a friend or somebody will like it, but that is always because of the subject matter (e.g. it&#039;s a particularly pretty flower of a type I know my wife likes.) But by and large, if I am setting up, framing, considering, composing, putting real mental effort into making a photograph, it&#039;s either because I&#039;m getting paid (alas, all too seldom) or because I want the photograph for myself.

In any event, I am not saying that this makes me a &quot;better&quot; or &quot;purer&quot; artist. (I do not care for contextual appraisal of artworks, which is why things like Pollack&#039;s blob-paintings irritate me so.) But the converse of that frame of mind is that to me, it does *not* make any difference whether the image the young woman is going to take was made because she needed/wanted to express herself, or because she thought that this particular situation would produce a photograph that would impress a professor/critic/gallery owner. (Although of course it&#039;s a cynical old world where it&#039;s *all* the latter.)

I am interested to know if you think it does, or what others think about it. I read the quoted paragraph as being a little cautionary: it seems to me that the author is saying that the subject is sliding down some kind of slope where she defines her work in terms of who will like it, who it will impress, and whether it contains the proper elements to be &quot;real art,&quot; or at least social relevance. I agree that this can have negative results but - and this could just be me being oversensitive - I do not care for what I sense as the slight hint of condemnation. It&#039;s one thing to say, &quot;Don&#039;t get so caught up in what other people think that you lose your vision,&quot; it&#039;s another to say, &quot;If you are just doing it to be a Photographer, as opposed to making photographs, you&#039;re doing it wrong.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any difference, artistically speaking, if the young woman wants to make the photograph described in the text because she thinks it would be fun/interesting/effective/moving, or because she wants to make a photograph that she thinks someone *else* will find fun/interesting/effective/moving?</p>
<p>I can honestly say that the sort of thing that she is doing is the kind of thing I have done, but I think I can honestly say that it has never occurred to me, unless I was being paid to take a photograph by somebody else, to take one or not to take one because of what *somebody else* would think of it.</p>
<p>Well, okay to be honest from time to time I take a picture of something because I think my wife or a friend or somebody will like it, but that is always because of the subject matter (e.g. it&#8217;s a particularly pretty flower of a type I know my wife likes.) But by and large, if I am setting up, framing, considering, composing, putting real mental effort into making a photograph, it&#8217;s either because I&#8217;m getting paid (alas, all too seldom) or because I want the photograph for myself.</p>
<p>In any event, I am not saying that this makes me a &#8220;better&#8221; or &#8220;purer&#8221; artist. (I do not care for contextual appraisal of artworks, which is why things like Pollack&#8217;s blob-paintings irritate me so.) But the converse of that frame of mind is that to me, it does *not* make any difference whether the image the young woman is going to take was made because she needed/wanted to express herself, or because she thought that this particular situation would produce a photograph that would impress a professor/critic/gallery owner. (Although of course it&#8217;s a cynical old world where it&#8217;s *all* the latter.)</p>
<p>I am interested to know if you think it does, or what others think about it. I read the quoted paragraph as being a little cautionary: it seems to me that the author is saying that the subject is sliding down some kind of slope where she defines her work in terms of who will like it, who it will impress, and whether it contains the proper elements to be &#8220;real art,&#8221; or at least social relevance. I agree that this can have negative results but &#8211; and this could just be me being oversensitive &#8211; I do not care for what I sense as the slight hint of condemnation. It&#8217;s one thing to say, &#8220;Don&#8217;t get so caught up in what other people think that you lose your vision,&#8221; it&#8217;s another to say, &#8220;If you are just doing it to be a Photographer, as opposed to making photographs, you&#8217;re doing it wrong.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Death and Resurrection of Photography In A Digitized World (Frieze Magazine) by David Comdico</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Comdico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In any case, if most viewers can’t tell whether pictures were taken with analogue or digital cameras, who cares if film fades?&quot;

Might as well rephrase this as &quot;most viewers can&#039;t tell art from crap, so who cares if art fades?&quot; 

Or perhaps, &quot;most readers can&#039;t tell a good critic from a bad critic, so who cares if criticism fades?&quot;

Or... well, you get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In any case, if most viewers can’t tell whether pictures were taken with analogue or digital cameras, who cares if film fades?&#8221;</p>
<p>Might as well rephrase this as &#8220;most viewers can&#8217;t tell art from crap, so who cares if art fades?&#8221; </p>
<p>Or perhaps, &#8220;most readers can&#8217;t tell a good critic from a bad critic, so who cares if criticism fades?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or&#8230; well, you get the idea.</p>
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